Thoughts on vessel?

markkaz said:
That being said, larger YouTube stars are not leaving YouTube. They know where their bread is buttered. They are only going to Vessel to get a little jam on top of the butter.
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True, true...something I was wondering though, like @AmbossTV covered a little bit. If some of these tuber's videos start gaining more views on Vessel, do you think that YouTube will try to pull an ultimatum? I doubt any of the viewers from Vessel are going to go back and watch the same video all over again on YouTube, which means YouTube misses out on a percentage of ad revenue. Depending on how many views a YouTuber actually gets on Vessel I would imagine at some point YouTube would start to see that maybe this individual isn't as helpful to their brand as they thought and possibly reduce the amount of resources going to this individual. (ie: Marketing, sponsors/trips, YT test features)

Not that I wish any ill will at all for any YouTuber, but it would be nice to see some new faces on the front page. If Vessel does prove to be more of a "full-time commitment" instead of just an extended income source, and everyone involved was happy with the changes, I think that would be wonderful.
 
Vessel has a good thing going for their platform with the exclusivity thing. However, I think OZ's idea is better than Vessel. They've created a platform that viewers can subscribe to (monetarily) on a channel-by-channel basis and creators receive 70% share, which sounds pretty good. There's no exclusivity involved. You're contributing directly to the creator, OZ takes their cut, and you're helping fund future content.
 
JTMulcahy said:
If some of these tuber's videos start gaining more views on Vessel, do you think that YouTube will try to pull an ultimatum? I doubt any of the viewers from Vessel are going to go back and watch the same video all over again on YouTube, which means YouTube misses out on a percentage of ad revenue. Depending on how many views a YouTuber actually gets on Vessel I would imagine at some point YouTube would start to see that maybe this individual isn't as helpful to their brand as they thought and possibly reduce the amount of resources going to this individual. (ie: Marketing, sponsors/trips, YT test features)
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It doesn't see like YouTube minds at all if creators use other services. If top dogs leave, it's only a drop in the bucket compared to the over-all channels/views.[DOUBLEPOST=1428693713,1428692677][/DOUBLEPOST]
paullaskovids said:
However, I think OZ's idea is better than Vessel. They've created a platform that viewers can subscribe to (monetarily) on a channel-by-channel basis and creators receive 70% share, which sounds pretty good. There's no exclusivity involved. You're contributing directly to the creator, OZ takes their cut, and you're helping fund future content.
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YouTube did the same thing and it is not considered a success. It was not public but we get higher than 55/45 for the paid channels option.

With any business, there are three rules to success. Location, location, location. Of course, that is for brick and mortar business but the same rules apply for the internet. People were unhappy with eBay's fees and started their own websites. The problem is that all of the traffic is on eBay. No traffic, no sales.

YouTube IS the traffic generator. It should be your home base. Develop your audience on YouTube. There's nothing wrong having outside revenue streams from other video-hosting websites. You should be utilizing other social sites that make sense and treat those for the environment that is there.
 
BitsOfBen said:
At some point someone is going to figure out how to download videos from Vessel and upload them directly to youtube which will be a whole new playground of madness!
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If I was participating, I would upload to both places at the same time but keep the YouTube version private until the 3-day period was over on Vessel.

This way, if somebody steals content, the creator will have a version that was uploaded first.
 
markkaz said:
If I was participating, I would upload to both places at the same time but keep the YouTube version private until the 3-day period was over on Vessel.

This way, if somebody steals content, the creator will have a version that was uploaded first.
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I agree but that would defeat the object of the 72 hours for the early birds.
 
My thoughts on Vessel: It's an ugly video streaming website with no sense of any community underneath the video. I have zero desire to go to Vessel daily like I do Youtube. I go to Youtube and search anything I want to find out about and I find something from someone, Vessel has none of this. Vessel has popular videos from popular people, this is nice but I don't always want "premium" content. Vessel has no "You" that the Youtube has.
 
I tried applying for it. Got an email saying "We would get back in 30 days." It's been two months. I don't think they will ever let me know if I am accepted.
 
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