YouTube Formula?

Valid option, but it's tantamount to harrassment and while punishment does seem strong, actions have to be taken or it sets a precedent! Why should I have to just put up with it? #Drahms
Why? Are you such a special snowflake? I've had people do crap like that to me as well and you don't see me running around asking for something to be "done" about it. I just block them. It's the mature thing to do.
 
Why? Are you such a special snowflake? I've had people do crap like that to me as well and you don't see me running around asking for something to be "done" about it. I just block them. It's the mature thing to do.

Again I get where you come from but when I've already blocked her here and then she moves it to twitter? And if I block her there and she moves to YouTube? Wheres the line?
 
I know this is in chillout but it's not advice it's not gossip I suppose and it's not strategy so I didn't know where to put it :D

If you look at all the hugely successful Youtubers on YouTube you start to notice a trend, for example: bullied in school, shy, not confident unless behind a mic, not very outspoken, often fought against depression and no real clue what they want to do in life.

So I'm thinking if maybe thats the YouTube formula? That somehow living life like this makes you relatable to people maybe and thus subscribable?

Now obviously I don't want to use this as an excuse for my own shortcoming in content creation and why my Undead is a low number, I just wanna provoke intelligent debate :D

MrGuyAwesome

Unfortunately don't have time to read through the other posts BUT I don't think its only that they have a sad story to their past but they have a very big and weird personality when they are behind a mic or now on camera. If you look at the daily vloggers (because thats our interest) most of them don't really have that kind of background... I don't think its a formula just being lucky at the right time and fitting into a kind of over the top character which was "new" to youtube at the time. There are always anomalies though!
 
I don't think its a formula just being lucky at the right time and fitting into a kind of over the top character which was "new" to youtube at the time. There are always anomalies though!

Hahaha great point! But therein lies my question, does that over the top character develop through tribulations of life? Obviously not to everyone or only developed through tribulations but it's an interesting topic!
 
Hahaha great point! But therein lies my question, does that over the top character develop through tribulations of life? Obviously not to everyone or only developed through tribulations but it's an interesting topic!

Hmm it could have been part of a coping mechanism... but Im pretty over the top when I'm with my friends and not had any kind of a sad life - but possibly not going over the cheese monitor like Zoella. Im not sure - i think its because they are different and people like different. But if you see now, people aren't as into it anymore and wanting something new and exciting... hopefully maybe a little less dramatic
 
I think the formula for a lot (but NOT ALL) big YouTubers goes like this:

creative person ever since they were little
got made fun of bullied in school and stuff
found YouTube and made crappy videos
deleted/private most of those crappy videos
gained a small following over the years
eventually they just blew up they used to be gaining 1 subscriber a week, now they are gaining 20,000 a week
have a job that they don't like but they can't quit because they need the money
either graduate school, drop out of school or do school online and quit their job move to LA to do YouTube full time

And here's the thing, I think every single person was bullied or didn't fit in at some point in their life even if it was just a tiny bit. Just saying.

Most of current youtubers won't stay for more than 5 years,

Maybe. .. But I don't know. Only time will tell. Smosh has been the top ten most popular YouTubers since early 2006 and Nigahiga has been at the top since 2007.
 
i believe its all about content. doesn't matter about your background. good content and a nice voice with dedication is the true formula
 
So this thread is super interesting to me because it reminds of the way people talk about myth tropes etc. If you've heard of Joseph Campbell? He analysed loads of world legends and boiled them down to basically following the exact same "formula(e)" - one, called "The Hero's Journey" even sounds a bit like the YouTube "story" that a lot of people seem to have (google: "Monomyth" for the full thing, it's fascinating to match stuff up).

I wonder whether it's something to do with how we tell stories - we learn certain structures to explain our lives, and I think that by highlighting moments of insecurity/hardship in their "Draw My Life" videos a lot of YouTubers do follow certain story-structures. It's not that they didn't experience them, or that there's a checklist of life events that make people good, but that when asked to reflect on their lives people tend to focus on events that fit specific existing structures.

Another point is that most YouTubers tend to be more creative, sensitive, and expressive people - that's what makes them good - and those traits also make an individual experience the same life events in a very different way. I think @JeriKane 's WWE parallel is really true too - and also true of almost every person who is famous for their creativity or art - everybody's fighting their own battle.
 
So this thread is super interesting to me because it reminds of the way people talk about myth tropes etc. If you've heard of Joseph Campbell? He analysed loads of world legends and boiled them down to basically following the exact same "formula(e)" - one, called "The Hero's Journey" even sounds a bit like the YouTube "story" that a lot of people seem to have (google: "Monomyth" for the full thing, it's fascinating to match stuff up).

I wonder whether it's something to do with how we tell stories - we learn certain structures to explain our lives, and I think that by highlighting moments of insecurity/hardship in their "Draw My Life" videos a lot of YouTubers do follow certain story-structures. It's not that they didn't experience them, or that there's a checklist of life events that make people good, but that when asked to reflect on their lives people tend to focus on events that fit specific existing structures.

Another point is that most YouTubers tend to be more creative, sensitive, and expressive people - that's what makes them good - and those traits also make an individual experience the same life events in a very different way. I think @JeriKane 's WWE parallel is really true too - and also true of almost every person who is famous for their creativity or art - everybody's fighting their own battle.

I am totally googling "Monomyth" thanks :)!

Another thing to note is the TV "sob story" we see it in so many competition shows (Like American Idol, or X Factor or whatever). They always shove in a "I'm doing this for my dead mum/dad/pet/gran" story as it adds somewhat of an entertainment value.

It also makes the people more human and relateable.
 
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