Freedom Lied To Me!

[Jeff]

God I love these Freedom threads, I'm just going to take my seat and let it all roll out...

I'm basically dying over here.

If i'm not mistaken, remember when George put out a video on how to terminate your contract with your current MCN. Once the truth started pouring out... guess what happened to the video?

 

[ElviantHawk]

They do have the CRT, just not the same version most MCNs have.
They use CTT, Channel Transfer Tool.

Thomas

 

[Freytochan]

I am not a part of the Freedom staff. ... I run a sub network under freedom.

Oh... You...

that was funny. thanks for the obvious point out.
look pressrecord.. i don't care who you are but you come on this forum representing the network that screwed my channel over and not only do you lie and say you don't work there but you try to feed me the same junk they did.

"you were in a lock in contact so you shouldve known" is just defensive junk because you know you screwed up.
no, it was my fault for trusting you freedom network partnership scamming scumbags. you or rather ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' told me they had lawyers telling everyone that it was correct. that we had a case to leave our networks. im not mad im locked in my network. im mad that had i never listened to ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' i wouldnt be in this situation.

btw you ''run a subnetwork under freedom?'' yeah? whats so great about it? freedoms subnetwork program is like equivelent to any other networks recruiter program.
so congrats, you are a recruiter with a fancy title because thats all you guys are. fancy words and hot air.
if you were a real network runner, youd come here and try to help me with my problem not act like you have a 25 foot pole up your a**.

dishonest people always get whats coming to them so good luck to you.

 

[Tarmack]

that was funny. thanks for the obvious point out.
look pressrecord.. i don't care who you are but you come on this forum representing the network that screwed my channel over and not only do you lie and say you don't work there but you try to feed me the same junk they did.

"you were in a lock in contact so you shouldve known" is just defensive junk because you know you screwed up.
no, it was my fault for trusting you freedom network partnership scamming scumbags. you or rather ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' told me they had lawyers telling everyone that it was correct. that we had a case to leave our networks. im not mad im locked in my network. im mad that had i never listened to ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' i wouldnt be in this situation.

btw you ''run a subnetwork under freedom?'' yeah? whats so great about it? freedoms subnetwork program is like equivelent to any other networks recruiter program.
so congrats, you are a recruiter with a fancy title because thats all you guys are. fancy words and hot air.
if you were a real network runner, youd come here and try to help me with my problem not act like you have a 25 foot pole up your a**.

dishonest people always get whats coming to them so good luck to you.

You're getting more than a little personal attacking someone who while they have some affiliation with those who were dishonest very likely has nothing they can do for you. Every sub-network is going to be defensive of their MCN because it is in their best interests to be so. They are business partners after all.

The fact of the matter is that there are only two parties that can let you out of a contract. BBTV in this case, and a court of law. Expecting a third party network to be able to do this is folly and you need to take more than no responsibility for it. Yes what they're selling is dishonest. Yes there's lots of b******t coming from George et al however @PressRecord is correct that you seem to believe that the contract you signed with BBTV is not binding, and of course it very much is.

The affiliate gets you out of your contract is a b******t line that Freedom is hoping scares networks into releasing people. Right now, and for the next few months the affiliate review isn't even implemented and when it does go live eventually, it's likely to have so little impact on most channels that it won't even be an issue which takes the wind right out of their sails. If the review was genuinely a 2-3 day wait for monetization there may be a potential argument but the current goals seem to be a 2-3 hour review time which is absolutely inconsequential.

From here, if your monetization is still broken, your only recourse is to have BBTV fix it. Generally, getting a list of email addresses, tweeting their support and so on in a guerilla fashion works best. And it's also worth noting that broken monetization would in fact be a breach of contract if they don't fix it in a reasonable amount of time. Though, I'd hold off on adding threats like that to the emails until there is no other choice.

And for those Freedom sub-networks having concerns about the direction the MCN is going, send me a message. Maybe we can work out a CA arrangement under a reputable MCN where you don't have to lie to prospective partners about managed status or contracts.

 

[WolfWraith]

that was funny. thanks for the obvious point out.
look pressrecord.. i don't care who you are but you come on this forum representing the network that screwed my channel over and not only do you lie and say you don't work there but you try to feed me the same junk they did.

"you were in a lock in contact so you shouldve known" is just defensive junk because you know you screwed up.
no, it was my fault for trusting you freedom network partnership scamming scumbags. you or rather ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' told me they had lawyers telling everyone that it was correct. that we had a case to leave our networks. im not mad im locked in my network. im mad that had i never listened to ''your network that you happen to represent but dont work for'' i wouldnt be in this situation.

btw you ''run a subnetwork under freedom?'' yeah? whats so great about it? freedoms subnetwork program is like equivelent to any other networks recruiter program.
so congrats, you are a recruiter with a fancy title because thats all you guys are. fancy words and hot air.
if you were a real network runner, youd come here and try to help me with my problem not act like you have a 25 foot pole up your a**.

dishonest people always get whats coming to them so good luck to you.

Sub networks are like subsidiary companies so @PressRecord wasn't lying when they said they weren't a Freedom staff member. That's like saying R* Games staff are Take2 staff when they're not, R* Games staff are under the employement of R* Games & Take2 staff are under the employment of Take2 Interactive, this is why you see stuff on the news about internal court battles where parent companies sue child companies or vice versa, there's a lot more legal bullcrap involved. In similar comparison, EB Games staff are EB Games staff and GameStop staff are GameStop staff, but in that case, EB Games is a seperate division not entirely a subsidiary company.
Also I'd point out that just because a sub network is under a bad parent network that they aren't always bad themselves. Look at Maker Studios, there's lots of good and bad things said about them, then RPM a sub network of Maker where there's lots of bad things said about RPM and then Polaris also a sub network of Maker Studios, yet Polaris is 1 of the (if not the) best gaming networks you could ever get into. Your finger pointing at the wrong people is making you look more and more stupid than the mistake you made of thinking your original contract wasn't binding. Now as mentioned you need to get into contact with TGN, if they're not helping give it a little more time and then look into using the YouTube feature to remove yourself from the contract as also mentioned they're breaching the contract by not allowing you to monetise your videos. I'm getting really sick of seeing people signing contracts like they're just some useless terms & conditions and that they can disregard anytime they want.

 

[neno64]

Sub networks are like subsidiary companies so @PressRecord wasn't lying when they said they weren't a Freedom staff member. That's like saying R* Games staff are Take2 staff when they're not, R* Games staff are under the employement of R* Games & Take2 staff are under the employment of Take2 Interactive, this is why you see stuff on the news about internal court battles where parent companies sue child companies or vice versa, there's a lot more legal bullcrap involved.

There is literally almost no similarity between these two examples and perhaps you need to understand how mcn's operate.
RPM and Polaris have two seperate MCN's to which they own, and this allows them to operate independently of one-another. Freedom and all of it's numerous VN's are under one MCN, bound by the rules of Freedom. Furthermore, these VN's are not registered businesses operating on their own behalf.

While I do agree to some degree that the OP was a bit silly to believe the crap Freedom was slinging, I believe she addressed that concern herself. As an example, just because we all know those "get rich quick" 2 AM infomercials are scamming bastards, is it really the total fault of the individual that didn't know any better when the company preys on those types on people?

 

[markkaz]

...is it really the total fault of the individual that didn't know any better when the company preys on those types on people?

Yes. It is their fault. They made a financial decision and apparently didn't do enough due diligence.

 

[WolfWraith]

There is literally almost no similarity between these two examples and perhaps you need to understand how mcn's operate.
RPM and Polaris have two seperate MCN's to which they own, and this allows them to operate independently of one-another. Freedom and all of it's numerous VN's are under one MCN, bound by the rules of Freedom. Furthermore, these VN's are not registered businesses operating on their own behalf.

While I do agree to some degree that the OP was a bit silly to believe the crap Freedom was slinging, I believe she addressed that concern herself. As an example, just because we all know those "get rich quick" 2 AM infomercials are scamming bastards, is it really the total fault of the individual that didn't know any better when the company preys on those types on people?

Okay and yes it is technically their fault but I'm not saying what freedom did was right, in fact the whole network to me is 1 of the 2 best jokes I've heard this year, the other being steam machines. I'm just sick of people thinking that because they didn't sign it by hand with a signature that it doesn't matter.