BroadbandTV: really, really, really lame CPMs? [BBTV and subsidiaries]

Oh another inside tip - Ya they def are skimming money off the top.

Again, another concern that I have expressed here on YTTalk.

Why does one network say that they are averaging $5 (for example) and another say that they are averaging $7. Is the first network taking more of the advertisers money up front and then only having them pay $5 CPM?
 
Oh another inside tip - Ya they def are skimming money off the top. The only person with access to the actual CPMs was the VP and that was the most closely guarded secret in the company. They often paid late, or didn't even pay at all. Its all about damage control and then they hope you just disappear. Even the front line staff's pay checks were missed sometimes LOL what a joke.

I believe this because of the terrible numbers I've seen. Any proof/info/idea how much they are taking?

Also did you get paid by commission at all, or just salaried with target goals for # of channels recruited?

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i heard VISO is hiring Recruiters and made a video about it.
Tons of networks are hiring recruiters. Often they are just paid by commission.

I can tell you as a large channel (more than 1m views per month) the number of 'job offers' I've gotten in exchange for signing are ridiculous. (typically unpaid with rewards for getting other channels to join, just an empty job title basically)
 
Again, another concern that I have expressed here on YTTalk.

Why does one network say that they are averaging $5 (for example) and another say that they are averaging $7. Is the first network taking more of the advertisers money up front and then only having them pay $5 CPM?


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I believe this because of the terrible numbers I've seen. Any proof/info/idea how much they are taking?

Also did you get paid by commission at all, or just salaried with target goals for # of channels recruited?



So if just standard Adsense pays the Youtuber 60% and Adsense takes 40% - Well BBTV takes 50% and then just runs adsense ads on your content under their CMS. So essentially instead of you earning 60% you are now earning 30%.. enjoy! whoooooQ!

Salary and commission was how they paid - terrible pay though.. and they lied and never paid out commissions to anyone even though it was written in everyone's contract. Real professional.
 
It is all lies.. they can say whatever they want lol[DOUBLEPOST=1373089458,1373089094][/DOUBLEPOST]



So if just standard Adsense pays the Youtuber 60% and Adsense takes 40% - Well BBTV takes 50% and then just runs adsense ads on your content under their CMS. So essentially instead of you earning 60% you are now earning 30%.. enjoy! whoooooQ!

Salary and commission was how they paid - terrible pay though.. and they lied and never paid out commissions to anyone even though it was written in everyone's contract. Real professional.

Youtube takes 45% regardless of whether you use Adsense or a network. All networks use Adsense. They have the ability to put in addition outside ads to the Adsense system.
 
Youtube takes 45% regardless of whether you use Adsense or a network. All networks use Adsense. They have the ability to put in addition outside ads to the Adsense system.


Sure they have the ability to sell in outside ads... but in all my time there was not a single outside ad was sold or run on any vids.. it was 100% Adsense. It's just another smoke and mirrors tale we would tell to sign people up thinking we will increase their CPMs.
 
Sure they have the ability to sell in outside ads... but in all my time there was not a single outside ad was sold or run on any vids.. it was 100% Adsense. It's just another smoke and mirrors tale we would tell to sign people up thinking we will increase their CPMs.

I was just pointing out the number clarification. I don't claim any love for bbtv.
 
I am also another ex-TGN person that was shown this thread. I am going to also remain anonymous. I did however work closely with George Vanous the former CEO of TGN. I will say that I have inside information, but must refrain from releasing it at this time.

I will share something though that is shocking:
I have moved on to another network and am fairly large. At TGN I got around $0.28 CPM and would get a check for around $30 a month. Since leaving and joining this other network, (I did nothing but switch mind you), I am making $8.90 CPM and make over $1000 a month. That is to illustrate just how much BBTV is stealing from their partners. Now take this out to a grand scale, and imagine how many millions they are stealing.

What blows me away is how much money they pump into their videos to keep production values up to keep up the charade. I cannot make a video about this but I do encourage others to do so. They need to be taken down because they are ruining people.
 
Surely no network would survive for long with steady CPM figures under a dollar? Especially if the differences are this large. Combined with the no lock-in contract it makes no sense for them to operate that way. Anyone joining them (who has an option to move somewhere else) will pack up their things and leave after receiving their first report...
 
Surely no network would survive for long with steady CPM figures under a dollar? Especially if the differences are this large. Combined with the no lock-in contract it makes no sense for them to operate that way. Anyone joining them (who has an option to move somewhere else) will pack up their things and leave after receiving their first report...


People on this forum know significantly more than your average YouTuber .To you, this seems like a non sequitur, but to the average person they are just happy to be part of such a large network. TGN thrives on the ignorance of smaller channels. Unless they are made aware of how much they are being ripped off they continue to drink the koolaid. TGN excels at building esprit de corps, if you try to explain to the people still there the problems, your comments are instantly removed and you will be blocked. They thrive at hiding the facts from their masses.
 
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