Sudden Dramatic Increase in Subscribers...Confused
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unknown_user97597677
I've Got It
I wish I knew the reason why, honestly. We are a professional channel and tbh subs are not really important its views that interest us more than subs so why would we 'bot' as that is where you both are aiming at.
The only noticeable factual change is the Fan Finder, I have researched several topics around this and have heard success stories where some people have gone from 2000 subs to 75000 in less than 6 months. I would not lie, once I get some hard evidence I will share it.
The emails I receive from sub notification seem genuine, yesterday there were several subs with a couple hundred videos and subs, that does not sound like a botted account to me...[DOUBLEPOST=1402473344,1402473288][/DOUBLEPOST]
If it is clicked it takes the user to the channel, it does not auto sub them, found this out yesterday.[DOUBLEPOST=1402473673][/DOUBLEPOST]Attached are our sub growth figures. The views are still lacking behind, I will need YT to catch up or to get a weeks worth of data to properly correlate the data.[DOUBLEPOST=1402474882][/DOUBLEPOST]Found this on a blog;
"Once you have confirmed your ad and it's been up and running for a few days, you can access the analytics data for the ad via Channel Settings > Fan Finder:"
Guess I just need to be patient for that button to appear then I can hopefully show you all that it is infact the fan finder that explains it. Watch this space
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Gametrix
YTtalk Mad
I hope its not, and I wish you good luck and hope that you find the answer.I wish I knew the reason why, honestly. We are a professional channel and tbh subs are not really important its views that interest us more than subs so why would we 'bot' as that is where you both are aiming at.
The only noticeable factual change is the Fan Finder, I have researched several topics around this and have heard success stories where some people have gone from 2000 subs to 75000 in less than 6 months. I would not lie, once I get some hard evidence I will share it.
The emails I receive from sub notification seem genuine, yesterday there were several subs with a couple hundred videos and subs, that does not sound like a botted account to me...[DOUBLEPOST=1402473344,1402473288][/DOUBLEPOST]
If it is clicked it takes the user to the channel, it does not auto sub them, found this out yesterday.[DOUBLEPOST=1402473673][/DOUBLEPOST]Attached are our sub growth figures. The views are still lacking behind, I will need YT to catch up or to get a weeks worth of data to properly correlate the data.[DOUBLEPOST=1402474882][/DOUBLEPOST]Found this on a blog;
"Once you have confirmed your ad and it's been up and running for a few days, you can access the analytics data for the ad via Channel Settings > Fan Finder:"
Guess I just need to be patient for that button to appear then I can hopefully show you all that it is infact the fan finder that explains it. Watch this space
Noobzilla
I Love YTtalk
I never said that you botted your own channel, just that your increase of subs most likely wasn't from fan finder, being embedded on another forum or anything else along those lines. I could be 100% wrong and it could be legitimate growth, but it sure doesn't seem that way.
Most of the scenarios that others have listed would come with additional views and interaction, but you are sitting right around your average. One does not simply walk into an extra 200 subs a day without additional views.
Oftentimes people bot YouTuber's channels either because they think they are helping them or so it makes that channel look bad. What I do know is that your channel is averaging the same amount of views per day but went from averaging less than 2 subs a day to ~189 a day. Sure channel growth explosions have happened to others in the past, but their views and interaction also went up dramatically as well.
Any explanation that has been offered outside of botting or going gung ho sub for subbing doesn't make sense to me. Your last 16 videos (at the time of this post) are averaging 15 views per which is near impossible from a channel averaging ~189 subs a day over the last 4 days.
Anyway, hope I am wrong. Best of luck with your channel.
unknown_user97597677
I've Got It
I take what you said on board. seems pointless to me wasting time botting a small channel.
Please don't forget that all analytics have not come through yet. Once I get a weeks worth of stats I can properly see whats going on. Yes, ~189 a day without view growth is fishy (why do you think I wrote this post in the first place?) but that may change once I get the facts I can finally put my mind at ease.
Currently the only information I have is...
Fan Finder has turned on (at the same time our subs grew)
Someone is botting (Highly unlikely, waste of time and effort)
Our main Engaged subscribers do say all the time that we deserve more subs but I don't they have the ability to purchase botting services, but who knows. It just doesn't make logical sense to do that. The main problem I have is the 'Analytics' button that comes with the Fan Finder is still not visible so I cannot prove it is that or not, its actually stressing me out rather than me being happy that my channel doubled in sub growth over 3 days
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I hope its super Lucky
.Sharing a video would show in my stats which it isn't
I doubt its a bot.[DOUBLEPOST=1402509137][/DOUBLEPOST]
Just a query on the quoted. The way we work is we batch release several videos of a specific type a day whilst maintaining variety. for Example, you say the last 16 videos, these being new 'test the waters' videos such as clash of clans which were a batch of 8 and Hearthstone which is a bit dead in the water. before that were 5 Final fantasy 13: Lightning Returns which is now old news (but we like to complete a series) a couple of CODs which are at 100+ videos.
Anyway, with the example our channel creates segmented groups who watch what they like with the occasional sub that watches a specific person or everything. Now I know this doesn't explain things but you quote our last 16 videos whereas we have other videos in the 20K+ region so there is a massive difference between some genres of games we provide.
How do I contact YouTube? At the end of the day they will know what is going on therefore sorting out this Dilemma, I have tried searching but I always get forwarded to their google.product forum.[DOUBLEPOST=1402525074][/DOUBLEPOST]I am starting to see a correlation factor in terms of views against our sub growth spurt. Please give me (or YT) to populate this weeks data and I will return with factual evidence that this is actually a success based on the Fan Finder. Our subs are still growing and I spot checked 10 random subscribers from our email notifications, some 0/0 accounts looked a bit fishy (subs to a lot of random channels) but 8/10 with 0/0 (subs/vids) were created ~2 years ago and have liked other content...not 'bot' behavior if you ask me.
Please give me time to gather the relevant statistics and I will finally crack this growth spurt.
WeKanGame
Superman
I wish you the best in finding your answer. Perhaps your search rankings have gone up? Since you don't have any feedback yet it's impossible to tell. I just know one of my reviews reached number 2 in search results and my channel started to grow really fast from 12k total views to 14k for me that is a lot. Maybe it's that?
unknown_user908435903
I Love YTtalk
I have this happening to me! Though I check their pages and they seem real, most of them has profile photos up and videos of their own up. Some have nothing up but yet are active on subscribing and liking videos... so I seem to attract those who are on YouTube just to watch videos.
unknown_user97597677
I've Got It
Finally getting some views in and total daily views seem to have increased by 10%ish. I am still waiting for YT to update its Analytics (3 days behind now).
Not looking like a bot now. I will obviously provide more info when YT updates[DOUBLEPOST=1402644457,1402639660][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes I spot checked a load as well and 9/10 look genuine even the 0 subs 0 videos account have liked video etc on their activity (possibly recruiters or scammers readying up for some mass crap emails). I know some bots can simulate this behaviour but its not cheap and YT are quite good at cleaning up security loops.[DOUBLEPOST=1402656375][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok, here are some preliminary statistics based on the current information I have.
Last is the week 30th May - June 6th. Before our Sub growth
This is the week June 7th - June 12th. Most analytics I can pull off atm.
Each comparative view counter has shown an increase in views to an average of 8.14%.
Now if we average the views of 'last' we get 1017 and 'this' is 1099 which means an average daily video view growth of 82. Over this week we have gained ~1000 subs which means that 1 in 12 subs are watching a single video.
Now YT Analytics say they are still calculating missed views therefore I could be missing yet more data from YT but there is still a correlating factor between sub growth and view growth albeit relatively small.
When more data comes my way I will continue to provide evidence of a natural popularity via the Fan Finder feature provided via YT rather than a bot attack which is being suggested here.
I am looking at total views rather than recently uploaded as our channel page is effectively set up to group variety together rather than show what we are uploading on the day. On average we release around 50 videos a month and the variety covers around 5 - 10 different games.[DOUBLEPOST=1402732008][/DOUBLEPOST]So I finally provide some insights and everyone remains quiet?
Not looking like a bot now
. I will obviously provide more info when YT updates[DOUBLEPOST=1402644457,1402639660][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes I spot checked a load as well and 9/10 look genuine even the 0 subs 0 videos account have liked video etc on their activity (possibly recruiters or scammers readying up for some mass crap emails
). I know some bots can simulate this behaviour but its not cheap and YT are quite good at cleaning up security loops.[DOUBLEPOST=1402656375][/DOUBLEPOST]Ok, here are some preliminary statistics based on the current information I have.Last is the week 30th May - June 6th. Before our Sub growth
This is the week June 7th - June 12th. Most analytics I can pull off atm.
Each comparative view counter has shown an increase in views to an average of 8.14%.
Now if we average the views of 'last' we get 1017 and 'this' is 1099 which means an average daily video view growth of 82. Over this week we have gained ~1000 subs which means that 1 in 12 subs are watching a single video.
Now YT Analytics say they are still calculating missed views therefore I could be missing yet more data from YT but there is still a correlating factor between sub growth and view growth albeit relatively small.
When more data comes my way I will continue to provide evidence of a natural popularity via the Fan Finder feature provided via YT rather than a bot attack which is being suggested here.
I am looking at total views rather than recently uploaded as our channel page is effectively set up to group variety together rather than show what we are uploading on the day. On average we release around 50 videos a month and the variety covers around 5 - 10 different games.[DOUBLEPOST=1402732008][/DOUBLEPOST]So I finally provide some insights and everyone remains quiet?
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