Number of views is decreasing !!!

[Shakycow]

However, at any case, who will protect investors rights if they delete some valid views. We actually not trying to accuse YouTube company, we only trying to know the details of those audits reports in order to build the trust. Currently they are auditing and validating views but the investor does not know what is going on and what kind of evidences they make to judge fraudulent views ? i know this is might need to go deep into more technical evidences but customers need the transparency.

The transparency is out there if you're willing to search for it.

A video needs to be watched for around 30 seconds to count as a view.
If a video is reloaded from the same device (within 6-8 hours), only 1 view is counted.
If a video is embedded on an external website and set on autoplay, it does not count as a view.
Any views made by a bot or automated service do not count.


Lastly, nobody is forcing you to use YouTube or its services. If you do not trust them, you are free to use another video sharing service.

 

[wasabiroots]

Well i am glad to know that YouTube is auditing the accuracy of views. I read what is written there, as summary, they are explaining the reasons towards these kinds of audits and how they will do it ? i think this is very good to protect YouTube rights and partnership image with respect to (investors + advertisers). However, at any case, who will protect investors rights if they delete some valid views. We actually not trying to accuse YouTube company, we only trying to know the details of those audits reports in order to build the trust. Currently they are auditing and validating views but the investor does not know what is going on and what kind of evidences they make to judge fraudulent views ? i know this is might need to go deep into more technical evidences but customers need the transparency.

quoted from the link:

(As part of our long-standing effort to keep YouTube authentic and full of meaningful interactions, we've begun to periodically audit the views a video has received. While in the past we would scan views for spam immediately after they occurred, starting today we will periodically validate the video’s view count, removing fraudulent views as new evidence comes to light. We don’t expect this approach to affect more than a minuscule fraction of videos on YouTube, but we believe it’s crucial to improving the accuracy of view counts and maintaining the trust of our fans and creators.)

Yes. What you just said.

And since we don't work with YouTube and only YouTube programmers know what their "algorithm" are, we might never know exactly what fraudulent views are, other than what has been explained (like what everyone is saying). Because once everyone knows what can or can't be done specifically for one channel, those who cheat would always find a way to cheat one way or the other. (I'm not saying you cheat, but anyone who has the intention would do it)

So to ensure everyone has the same level of knowledge (if one seeks it out) then everyone has almost the same chances of success in YouTube and what is left for each channel is just a difference in their type of content, quality and manner of promotion.

 

[ItsFunny]

Youtube updating View counter system it happen to me but view back again

 

[zaffron]

The transparency is out there if you're willing to search for it.

i am willing since long time.

A video needs to be watched for around 30 seconds to count as a view.
If a video is reloaded from the same device (within 6-8 hours), only 1 view is counted.
If a video is embedded on an external website and set on auto-play, it does not count as a view.
Any views made by a bot or automated service do not count.

from where you 've quoted the above details !!!!
This is not written on the provided link. However, again this is not answering my obvious question which is
(who will ensure they will not delete any valid views?)

Lastly, nobody is forcing you to use YouTube or its services. If you do not trust them, you are free to use another video sharing service.

You and some other members are acting as YouTube dedicated attorneys !!!
Regardless of that, as an example of this kind of deals, we should ask our selves how can we deposit our money at different banks and trust them ?
In fact, those banks are building the customer trust by providing bank statements available for each customer in which all transaction are being listed including , cash-outs and cash-in and fraudulent trials and they will send you an instant mobile SMS. They are providing the 100% transparency. Similarly, YouTube as a very large leading company they provide us those details available for each account within its analytic window but still i cannot say it reach 100% transparency

At the end, i am not trying to accuse Youtube rather than trying know what is going on ?[DOUBLEPOST=1448107631,1448106903][/DOUBLEPOST]

Yes. What you just said.

And since we don't work with YouTube and only YouTube programmers know what their "algorithm" are, we might never know exactly what fraudulent views are, other than what has been explained (like what everyone is saying). Because once everyone knows what can or can't be done specifically for one channel, those who cheat would always find a way to cheat one way or the other. (I'm not saying you cheat, but anyone who has the intenti
on would do it)

This is the first logical valid point that i see from the user point of view
but we don't want this situation to be on the account of impartial YouTube users.

 

[XXLRay]

There is no guarantee that YouTube doesn't remove a valid view. YouTube will not go into detail because a) this information may be abused by cheaters and b) the algorithm settings change too often.
Either you trust YouTube or you don't - your choice.

 

[zaffron]

hi there
today i am so frustrated and sad too much !!!!
another strange thing happened in my account this week !!!!

for the whole week i watched my channel activities through channel analytic specially the Real time analytic and i didn't make any self opening. i also didn't encourage others to open my videos.

here are the number of views day by day:

20 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1198
21 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1216
22 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1227
23 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1250
24 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1250
25 Nov 2015 ----- total channel views = 1185

see the attachment

More over, during this week period i upload one video with 33 views till today

Really what is going on ?!!!!!
i start hating YOUTUBE

 

[Shakycow]

hi there
today i am so frustrated and sad too much !!!!
another strange thing happened in my account this week !!!!

Really what is going on ?!!!!!
i start hating YOUTUBE

What's the question?
The number of views you get will fluctuate daily/ hourly.
You're worrying yourself over a 3% change...not nearly a high enough number to fret over.

 

[zaffron]

The number of views you get will fluctuate daily/ hourly.

This is out of logic !!!
number of views cannot decrease unless i am stupid

You're worrying yourself over a 3% change...not nearly a high enough number to fret over.

even if it is 0.001 % , it is a legitimate right. Am i wrong ?

 

[wasabiroots]

The attachment doesn't show anything of value to your complaint to be honest.

You could try complaining directly to YouTube and see what they have to say lol

I do think you're making something small into something big and rather than focus on a few lost views, try to think of a way to get more quality views which would be more beneficial for your channel. ^^ All the best to you.