To small YouTubers : Don't sign a contract too early

Hardisk

Hardisk

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Hey guys,
Today I want to talk about an issue I see more and more in this forum : People with 10-500 subscribers wanting to get external partnership outside of the automatic YouTube partner program that they have now .

Quick advice : don't do it , you'll most likely not negociate your contract right, sign it without reading half of it and if your channel does well, be "stuck" for another year with a crappy contract at 1.5$ CPM because you signed something too quickly.

I'm waiting for my 5.000 subscribers to get into an external contract with Curse (3$ CPM) , I know that's a longshot but my channel does well and grows well, I don't want to make an early mistake.


TL;DR : YouTube is giving you more and more partner features anywhere, if you have less than 5000 subscribers I believe you should not focus on getting a contract but rather getting a growing channel and fanbase, also learning about web-marketing and legal issues to read and negociate your contract right when the time has come.
 
A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube because of the lack of protection you get within the YouTube network.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for more branding options.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for better resources for their videos (music, sfx, livestreaming via Vidcast, etc).

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube to feel apart of a team.

I could go on, but getting my point clear. Not everyone is in it for the money. You're basically insinuating that a certain dollar amount with some networks doesn't mirror what Curse might offer. Quick fact: Monetary gain through partnership depends on overall viewership and ad clicks. So if a threshold is not met, you don't make a lot of $$ anyway. You're looking at it from a perspective of unknowing what others do get offered in terms of contractual structure.

Your opinion is your opinion and I respect that my friend, but there are many sides to the spectrum as far as network affiliations with YouTube, and the affiliates who join them.
 
K.V Anime said:
A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube because of the lack of protection you get within the YouTube network.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for more branding options.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for better resources for their videos (music, sfx, livestreaming via Vidcast, etc).

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube to feel apart of a team.

I could go on, but getting my point clear. Not everyone is in it for the money. You're basically insinuating that a certain dollar amount with some networks doesn't mirror what Curse might offer. Quick fact: Monetary gain through partnership depends on overall viewership and ad clicks. So if a threshold is not met, you don't make a lot of $$ anyway. You're looking at it from a perspective of unknowing what others do get offered in terms of contractual structure.

Your opinion is your opinion and I respect that my friend, but there are many sides to the spectrum as far as network affiliations with YouTube, and the affiliates who join them.
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I definetly agree with you on that!
 
That's very true, I wasn't seeing that end of the spectrum as i'm not a gaming channel myself.

However my point on making mistakes signing too fast still stands.
 
First at all even with their current low CPM I believe that the Curse Network or like it`s now called Curse Entertainment still is pretty solid.


Some of my Friends that are into LoL/World of Tanks/World of Warcraft/Guild Wars 2/... are still running their YouTube Channels below the Curse Entertainment Flag while a few other have left them when they had some slightly Troubles with YouTube/Machinima a few Months ago.

While this is said I would still say that if you play some MMO and enjoy doing some Recordings of your Gameplay or if you even have a Guild that does some Raids every Week I don`t see a reason why someone shouldn`t join them since you will probably care more about the Game and it`s Content then about how much you are getting at the End of the Month paid as long as you can keep playing.

Let`s face it:

A CPM of 3,5 is still enough to make you able to pay your Monthly Subscription not only for yourself but for sure for your Girlfriend too and in the End it`s mostly even enough to rent an dedicated Server to run your own Guild Website/Forum/... and that`s actually more then some of us do need to be happy, at least that what I got from my Friends told that care more about those Games then about if their YouTube Channels are famous or not.

And to be honest I kinda like that attitude...​
 
Hardisk said:
That's very true, I wasn't seeing that end of the spectrum as i'm not a gaming channel myself.

However my point on making mistakes signing too fast still stands.
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Absolutely, you can't ever rush blindly into a contract, of any sort.

Personally I'm more concerned with contract length than CPM, not that I need to be concerned with any of that at this point... ;-)
 
This time last week, I had no knowledge of networks (YouTube related) and I'm still trying to get my head around it.

I'm trying hard not to be impatient and just meet my little goals - 100 subbie, 250 and then 500 (I'm at 80). Oh, and 10,000 video views (I'm just under 4,000). By the time I reach these goals, I'm sure I'll be very educated (especially by this forum).

:)
 
K.V Anime said:
A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube because of the lack of protection you get within the YouTube network.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for more branding options.

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube for better resources for their videos (music, sfx, livestreaming via Vidcast, etc).

A lot of people look for an opportunity to partner outside of YouTube to feel apart of a team.

I could go on, but getting my point clear. Not everyone is in it for the money. You're basically insinuating that a certain dollar amount with some networks doesn't mirror what Curse might offer. Quick fact: Monetary gain through partnership depends on overall viewership and ad clicks. So if a threshold is not met, you don't make a lot of $$ anyway. You're looking at it from a perspective of unknowing what others do get offered in terms of contractual structure.

Your opinion is your opinion and I respect that my friend, but there are many sides to the spectrum as far as network affiliations with YouTube, and the affiliates who join them.
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And also about the people who get their adsense disabled for no apparent reason should do what they feel is best for themselves and their channel.

Plus if its for a year they have plenty of time to grow their channel through their network they've signed with and be prepared for when the contract is over.
 
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